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David Sedaris: Clearly, not hardcore enough for China

American comedy writer David Sedaris underscored his total wimpiness in a long-winded whine published in the Guardian last week about his experience visiting China, and in particular, Chengdu.

Spit, snot, poo, pee, and more phlegm are the main themes he tackles in the nearly 3,000-word tirade. Oh, and how the disgustingness was made all the worse by the fact that he and his partner spent the week prior to arriving in China in Japan—where, according to him, both the food and hygiene practices are far superior. Ooo, dis.

Initially yammering on about his traumatic childhood experience at a Chinese restaurant that led to his lifelong dislike of Chinese food, Sedaris finally meanders to his point: the loogies.

...[W]e flew from Narita to Beijing International, where the first thing one notices is what sounds like a milk steamer, the sort a cafe uses when making lattes and cappuccinos. "That's odd," you think. "There's a coffee bar on the elevator to the parking deck?" What you're hearing, that incessant guttural hiss, is the sound of one person, and then another, dredging up phlegm, seemingly from the depths of his or her soul. At first you look over, wondering, "Where are you going to put that?" A better question, you soon realise, is, "Where aren't you going to put it?"

I saw wads of phlegm glistening like freshly shucked oysters on staircases and escalators. I saw them frozen into slicks on the sidewalk and oozing down the sides of walls. It often seemed that if people weren't spitting, they were coughing without covering their mouths, or shooting wads of snot out of their noses. This was done by plugging one nostril and using the other as a blowhole."

It's like reading a China-newb's first blog post, but with more sophisticated writing and copyediting.

Sedaris's issue with China is not, of course, limited to bodily fluids. It's also the weird meat, the farm rooster that disappeared shortly before Sedaris and his group were served a hacked-up chicken on a plate, the eating of cats and dogs and, essentially, the questionable intelligence of anybody who lives in China, whether by default or by choice.

"We Chinese think it's best just to get it out," a woman told me over dinner one night. She said that, in her opinion, it's disgusting that a westerner would use a handkerchief and then put it back into his pocket.

"Well, it's not for sentimental reasons," I told her. "We don't hold on to our snot for ever. The handkerchief's mainly a sanitary consideration."

... [T]he man across from me beamed and reached for his chopsticks. "You know," he said, "this country might have its ups and downs but it is virtually impossible to get a bad meal here."

I didn't say anything.

Sedaris, who was invited to China in January to make an early appearance in this year's Bookworm International Literary Festival, of which he makes no mention in the article, also describes some of his interactions with Chengdu's local expat celebrities—in particular, at hotpot.

"I've taken the liberty of ordering us some tofu, some mushrooms and some duck tongues," said the western woman sitting across from me. "Do you trust me to keep ordering, or is there anything in particular you might like?"

I looked at her thinking, "You whore!" Catherine was English and had lived in China for close to 20 years.

" ... At least I can tell everyone that David Sedaris called me a whore in the Guardian. That's not a bad line," retorted the Catherine quoted in the piece.

Guess nobody told him about the drainage-oil scandal that affected a number of Chengdu's hotpot restaurants.

Let's only hope that the angry Chinese Internet mobs who commented on the now-infamous CNNGo pidan report, in which a blogger called a preserved duck egg the "the stupidest motherf—ing thing I have ever put in my mouth" never see Sedaris's pièce de résistance ... or surely the Guardian will be issuing an apology for hurting the feelings of the Chinese people, and more lame China Daily wannabe diplomacy.

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    • invisible
      July 20, 2011
    • Sedaris piece is actually really lame, and the only reason for the Guardian to print that trash is to jump on the bandwaggon of the little cnngo scandal to suck up a couple of hits (Sure if you happen to be a middle-aged conservative, maybe you could even consider Sedaris comical in his prime [uhuh a gay so funny], however long ago that might have been, but even so no this article is so wrong in so many ways, it's revolting).

      Whatever, it's the Guardian's right to publish whatever they want (or better it's the Scott Trust right after all and their associates's interests). A right they actually refuse to their readership, and that's my main issue; you can't even comment the original article on the Guardian website, can you? Is the Guardian so afraid of its readership or is that just the general trend the "freedom" takes in the West?

      Long live Chairman Scott.

    • Anonymous
      July 20, 2011
    • David Sedaris being candid about his China trip: useful, interesting. You calling David Sedaris a wimp and saying he isn't "Hardcore enough for China": no one gives a fuck.

    • iraglassismyhero
      July 20, 2011
    • david sedaris absolutely isn't hardcore enough for china, and he'd probably be the first to admit it. he's made a career as a wimp and a satirist, and as such, is typically more sarcastic than the average citizen and doesn't let anyone or anything escape from his caustic wit. sometimes his satire is a bit too much for my taste, and other times i find it to be hilarious. it's no surprise to me that he used china as recent fodder, and i found it to be so funny that i laughed until i cried. do i agree with his assessments? hell no, but he's definitely got a funny way of describing the day-to-day here in the middle kingdom.

      does suck that you can't post comments about it though, because i'd enjoy reading the backlash and i wanted to comment on how silly it is that 'there's no kungpao chicken'... ;)

    • spandolf
      July 21, 2011
    • Chengdu food is the best in the world

      Pity that guy couldn't find something more interesting to comment on than spitting.

      Seems from the quote that he didn't go anywhere in Chengdu except some underground car parks and a restaurant!

    • Thomas
      July 21, 2011
    • What I get from this is that China is still mysterious to most foreigners. Yes it is. Few foreigners live in China and that is why this kind of article exists. I'm not sure about which statistics to trust, but I have seen one source that suggests only 750,000 foreigners live and work in China. That's it?! Someone who lives in Kunming told me that Shanghai alone has like 2-3 million foreigners, so 3/4 million in all of China can't possibly be right. In any case, even 50 million foreigners wouldn't be that many, since China has a population of 1,350 million and therefore 50 million still wouldn't be too noticeable, especially outside the major cities.

      BTW I have been living in Kunming for the past few months, intend to move to Chengdu soon.

      However, what any newcomer to China will soon notice is the absence of foreigners in most places in China. Which begs the question, where are you guys? On an average day in Kunming, it is possible to walk around downtown and not see a single westerner! Although usually you will see a couple and occassionally you'll even see some in places you wouldn't expect.

      But that brings me to my next point: the starring and those annoying "hellos" after which you must give them the obligatory stare back and an equally annoying "nihao".

      These are weird and exotic things that I thought have long disappeared in Asia. The HUGE numbers of foreign visitors in every single SE Asian country (except Myanmar) have mostly jaded the locals to the point that you can show up in a village in Thailand or Laos and most locals couldn't care less. Yes there are fewer foreigners living in or visiting nowhereville, Thailand than Kunming, but the locals won't stare or say hello or anything like that to extent that I experienced in Kunming.

      Sorry about this long post, but my point is: China is different. Not necessarily better or worse than anyplace else, but certainly different. While a foreigner won't generally cause crowds to follow him/her like in India or Bangladesh, what I mentioned above is strange enough to encounter in a day and age where the world is becoming increasingly interconnected and multicultural.

      Equally the spitting, pissing on the streets (mainly by kids) etc. which you generally won't find in SE Asia.

    • Bruce
      July 22, 2011
    • China does take some getting used to on the part of foreigners; it is different from say South-East Asia, which used to be seen as very exotic but due to their exposure to the west have become a whole lot more familiar. China doesn't seem to have that kind of familiarity yet, except perhaps in Shanghai.

      Chinese food is generally great, although I don't think overt criticism is warranted towards those who say things like pidan are weird, because frankly, it is weird in the eyes of foreigners. Still, the writer's [David Sedaris] reaction might have been a bit too strong.

      Fortunately no one who criticizes the horrible toilets and sometimes poor sanitary habits of some Chinese people gets blasted...because that would just be weird. How the hell can you defend horrible toilets? They are a disaster, but they do make for a good laugh on our part!

    • Dr.Who1979
      July 22, 2011
    • I tend to agree with this guy, i just left China last week and never did get to Chengdu but i found his article right on the money. This country has got to have the most ignorant people on the face of the planet not to forget how racist they are toward anything with a hint of color although they will never admit to it. The upper class were well educated but as far as the middle class or working class wow, these people are like machines they will walk right into a car coming right at them and not move out of the way, while spitting or taking a piss on a monument or street corner. My time in China was that of a traveler and i had a good time but i could not believe how dirty it was, its like the sister of India without English or any courtesy of any kind. Pushing through people to get to the front of a line for any cause these people are nuts, the trains were good but even though my Chinese is of a mid level they would just say "ting bu dong 100 times" Every free space has something in it and or garbage or a kid dumping a hot steaming load on the street. I found the food good and clean never did get sick, but very oily.

      The other thing i noticed was scams and fraud in every level. I would not even dare say for i do wish to return, i find China a good visit but be prepared, stick to HI hostels and hotels of good standing. For me it seemed like a million police standing around doing nothing and drunk drivers everywhere. I met a lot of foreigners mostly washed up teachers in hostels with a million stories about how crappy it was, i wish i went to Chengdu man i heard it was cool. I was in Sanya mostly and the south. I look forward to my next visit with my wife. Someone please address the racism issue, its the worst i have ever seen in my life.

      Rock on David nice story i am a fan long time love you love you long time sucky sucky

    • Andy
      July 24, 2011
    • Agreed, and yet, it's a matter of degree. Kids defecating in public is disgusting. Kids peeing in sinks is disgusting. People spitting on the floor of dining establishments is disgusting. Adults should know better, but maybe it is a cultural thing. But David Sedaris is a hypocrite for his other criticisms. He notes that people arbitrarily decide which animals are acceptable for eating and which are acceptable to denounce other people for eating. So why is he arbitrarily deciding to call out the Chinese on spitting in public and dirty bathrooms. Of course, we may have a reason to excuse Mr. Sedaris's perceptive deficits. Maybe the poor guy has a degenerative eye condition. Maybe he's just old and it's time for him to pick out a pretty frame for his sorely needed pair of corrective lenses. But if his eyesight is uninhibited, he should open his ignorant eyes to American culture, and global culture. Wherever humanity has taken up residence, they've spit on the ground. Wherever they've built public restrooms, there's been those cross-eyed assholes who can't piss straight and those lazy bastards who don't have the decency to flush their shit down the toilet.

      For anyone who think it's about the food, it's not. Mr. Sedaris was only disgusted by a dish of hacked up organ meat. On other occasions, it was the perceived lack of sanitation that robbed him of his appetite. A 'C' sanitation grade? I know of two other places that received 'C' sanitation grades. Gilt and A Voce, Michelin starred restaurants in Manhattan. If Mr. Sedaris were an equal opportunity germaphobe, he would have starved to death a long time ago.

    • John Smith
      July 24, 2011
    • China is difficult. China is different. I've studied Chinese at a Chinese university for a few months now, but because I'm a little lazy I study only when I want, and show up to class sometimes prepared, most of the time not, besides most other students do exactly the same. Also, I generally use my own materials, not that boring stuff the university gives me. In the end I know I will master Chinese, just that it will take 5 years or so, not just 1 year like some people claim. I know about all the difficulties faced in getting understood, or understanding others, even by linguistic Master's degree students that have studied Chinese for 7 years. If they are still having difficulties with language in China, of course I will too.

      Still, I do get offended when taxi drivers say things like: "shuo zhongwen" when I tell them my address, which they don't know. Umm...sorry, but it's not my Chinese that needs practice (in this case), it's your geographical knowledge buddy. Because it just so happens that nobody really knows the name of the street I live on by that name, they use the name of a nearby hill as a reference. This is what happened to me on a recent taxi trip. I've been telling taxi drivers that I want to go to that hill everytime since then (maybe 30-40 trips or more) and everytime I was understood and they took me there.

      Basically you need to be assertive though, because China will smack you down real hard otherwise. China is not like SE Asia where you can just bumble down the street and expect warm service, friendly smiles and English being spoken, spoons and forks available everywhere you go, English language menus, customer service etc. No, China is nothing like that. China is deliberately different. It does take a tough person to live in China. Hell it takes a tough person even to travel through China. Ever wonder why there are so many tourists in SE Asia, such as in Laos and Vietnam, even close to the Chinese border but not a single one ever crosses that border and goes to China? Well....now I know why.

    • Matt
      July 24, 2011
    • I agree about the comment "China will smack you down real hard otherwise" because it's so true. I've travelled throughout Asia and China is really taxing like no other place in Asia. I've never seen the kind of sights that I saw in China, elsewhere in South-East Asia.

      Spitting, defecating on the streets, bad toilets (read: toilets that are worse than your worst nightmare) where strangers happily stare at each other's balls while smoking or reading a newspaper and at the same time crapping over a trench...OMG! It's even worse if you're a foreigner...and they start checking you out.

      The starring, the ogling, the "hello's" or "nihao's" every single day everywhere you go (except Shanghai) is mind-boggingly infuriating. It's a scene out of bizzarro world novel, or perhaps out of a Marco Polo travel account. You feel so out of place when you are there I'm wondering how many foreigners have to seek out counselling once they get home. You really get the feeling that the government has been telling people that foreigners are bad, that foreigners are "the devil" because that's how I've been stared at on some occassions. One time some crazy old fart whispered something like..."oh those two foreign devils" under his breath. Wtf was his problem? My friend and I were the only two foreigners for miles around as far as we could tell, so there certainly weren't too many foreigners around.

      The only way you can deal with this is either by being very assertive (as the above poster has suggested) and get them back by pushing back when they push, get upset when you are refused service and start ogling back and saying nihao or asking why people are staring when it happens to you. But in order to do that, you have to be turned on all the time.

      Oh, and I forgot to mention hospitals. Yes, I went to a Chinese hospital once. In one word: shocking. First of all, what the hell are all those farmers doing in the doctor's office? They aren't even related to the patient, yet they will happily ogle away at whatever unlucky patient has to take his clothes off to show a rash or something to the doctor. Whatever happened to closing the door and then calling out the patients when their turn comes.

      China? Nice in parts...but tiring and a truly weird experience. I now understand what the author is talking about. However, I don't think criticizing the food is warranted, because Chinese food is truly great.

    • Mr.Tutor
      July 24, 2011
    • Hhmmm, a few interesting comments here. I guess many of you have had lots of trouble with local Chinese annoying you or trying to scam you or just being annoying.

      I haven't had that problem. When I go to local bars its common for the Chinese guys to invite us to their tables buy round after round of drinks and then wish us well as we head out for the night. The girls are also great. They are shy, but as long as you think of a good reason to talk to them they will try to help you and from my experience they are usually interested in "showing you around Chengdu".

      All in all I get stares and the "hellos", but isn't that why you came to Chengdu? To go to a part of China where Westerners are still somewhat of a novelty and the people are friendly and acknowledge your existence...

    • chopstix master
      July 25, 2011
    • I know it has nothing to do with Sedaris self-hatred...

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    • John Smith
      July 25, 2011
    • Mr. Tutor, sure it's exotic, but it does get tiring after a while, all the "hellos". Staring is less common actually. I do however find it weird that the staring still persists, because in cities like Chengdu you will almost certainly see foreigners everyday, albeit maybe not that many. I genuinely like the Chinese people, but unfortunately, it's those recent arrivals from the countryside who sometimes act like zoo animals and treat us with almost too much curiousity that just pisses me off. Funny though - when I went to the countryside in Yunnan some weeks back I wasn't really stared at...one guy smiled and that was it; felt really welcoming.

      Luckily, I don't feel I have been scammed in China (I just don't think the average Chinese person would be willing to wait 2 months just to scam 100RMB from an unsuspecting foreigner, then never again get business from foreigners again). In any case, I've tried to grow a thick skin to make sure I don't run into trouble or be taken advantage of anyway (it's surprisingly easy to get rid of most touts unlike in other parts of Asia).

      I agree with the bar thing though. People are friendly and they will almost always invite you to drink with them and all in all it's pretty safe - much safer than in the west. And you could say that in general, despite minor annoyances China is just safer and some aspects of the lifestyle etc. are just more pleasant than the west.

    • English-Gentlemen
      July 27, 2011
    • I think it's fine for a comedian to express an amusing exaggeration of his views. At the end of the day it's probably not meant literally (no pays comedians to write scientific fact), and whilst I love China, just like anywhere else in the world, there are good and bad things about China (I think I actually like Chinese people more than China the country).

      I'd be so bored if everyone I met liked Chengdu and China.

      For some people China is a manic developing paradise, a complete kaleidoscope of all sorts of things. For other people its just a mess that's not got there yet. Its all personal preference, no write or wrong, and he's as free to speak about China as I am to say I think America has developed a disgusting national diet (double the required amount of food, and no vitamins).
      It doesn't offend, its opinions (and I like most Americans on a personal level, my objection is their collective culture). But then some of you probably think I'm an annoying Englishman - which is also fine (although we'll not be meeting up for drinks, as our preferences are different).

    • Lewis
      July 30, 2011
    • Here's an adorable response:

      http://www.thehypermodern.com/[...]

    • Manchester.United
      August 3, 2011
    • Whilst walking my dog a baby shits on the arm of a mother dripping down hitting the ground, my dog poops on the sidewalk and i get scorned. Oh my lady gaga. China is a sick country but i fit right in. Save on diaper and join the robots with the borderline socialist censorship and racist public i am surprised they even allowed the article up.( being he is non white) I would love to hear some of the racism stories black people have. Me being black myself and loosing jobs based on skin tone. At least i have a horse dick.........haha

    • Manchester.United
      August 3, 2011
    • My lord even my writing has lost its grammar after being here for year, shame on me. Dilligaf

    • Canucks suck
      August 4, 2011
    • Well said Man U. That is priceless;

    • Dave
      August 4, 2011
    • And the crazy thing is that in China (and many other parts of Asia, particularly South-East Asia) it seems to be perfectly acceptable for employers to list attributes such as age, sex and even say things like: "only white people wanted" or "only white and Asian people will be considered"; I can only imagine how awful it feels to be discriminated against like that. Just look at the job page on this very website to see how they justify it: "it caters only for the learners". Bullsh*t...how will these people ever learn to adapt to a modern world where people from all over the world can be found in one place, when such attitudes are still so common?

      On another note, what's wrong with David Sedaris claiming that Japan is clean and the food etc. tastes better than China? Let's not pretend that no one has a bias and that everyone has blinkers on forcing them to view everything with tunnel vision, especially in a country like China. Anyone that doesn't live in a hole knows that Japan has an obsession with cleanliness, and that China, well is quite the opposite. Ask any Thai person etc. what they think about China and it's people and without ever even having been there the response will be unanimous: "it's [they're] dirty". There's no point in pretending to be in denial. Let this man say what he wants; everyone is entitled to their opinion.

    • tingkerbell
      October 13, 2011
    • Wow - a ton of emotions and thoughts raced through my head after reading this post and all the comments, I couldn't help but offer my two cents. I agree with Mr. Tutor. No one was forced to come to China. Everyone of you came by your own accord whether to study, travel, do business, expand your mind, find your souls, experience culture shock and may eventually return home with all sorts of stories about what the other half of the world does. I get. Its a strange place. Full of strange behaviours, cultural tics and bizarre norms. But thats the heart of traveling and other experiencing other cultures. To be for some period of time immersed in something you'll never truly understand, to be horrified and delighted by the strangeness of it all.

      I'm Chinese and grew up overseas, so I get both sides of the argument.

      In regards to the dirtyness, the spitting, the racism, the hygiene issues and staring I do have a theory, so hear me out:

      As a foreigner, you ARE special. Not in the inflated ego kind of way. In that yes, you are exotic, and different. Thats part in parcel to the experience. China was closed not so long ago to the rest of the world. And it has forever had a China-centric, we are superior to all other nations attitude since time immemorial. So anyone not sporting black hair brown eyes immediately sets of a little red light in the brains of any surrounding Chinese. Yes, you may find many instances of racism, deeply rooted in Chinese society, in business, in the 'we are the best' outlook which I also find deeply unsettling. It's just something you have to get over. Just like there are bigots and anti-immigration protest groups in America and Europe, so there are deeply judgemental Chinese people. Some, not all. And foreigners are not special in their being singled out. Hua quiew or overseas Chinese are treated like lepers 'whats wrong with you, how can you not know the meaning of such and such a cultural reference, why do you speak mandarin with an accent' (enter all sorts of denigrating remarks about my ancestry), they pat my head and console, "Its ok, you're not really Chinese". These things you just take with a pinch of salt and get over it. China is not xenophobic, they are at once fascinated and horrified of foreigners. Many have never seen blue eyes or red hair. It's as if an alien landed in NYC, wouldn't you stare? Just as you would not expect New York cabbies to understand a new immigrants mangled English, or an Italian restaurant to provide chopsticks, you play by the rules in a new country. Stick it out and survive it. So what if people stare? It makes me think of refugees or immigrants forced to move overseas that are often met with uncompromising beauracracy, working the dirtiest of jobs to make ends meet. Here in China, being a foreigner, you are Not an immigrant, your monthly wage is almost a years salary of any Chinese. Have you ever paused to think that many people view foreigners with a mixture of aspiration (due to heavily marketed American lifestyle), jealousy (the ability to take leisure time to backpack for 3 months at a time that is unheard of to the average Chinese), a meal ticket (a way to practice their English so they can advance out of the ratpack that is the Chinese job market) and genuine curiosity (China has not had its tourist spots tainted by banana pancakes and bhang lassis). I say enjoy being special while it lasts. There might come a day where the Chinese won't bat an eyelid, won't scramble to have their picture taken with your blonde boyfriend or practice their "Hellos" with you.

      And on the spittiness and hoiking? I can only shake my head and laugh. Its a health thing. We believe in ridding the body of so called "toxic substances" which particularly accumulate at night, resulting in almost group like hoiking early morning with no discretion. Yes, the irony of the ground/table/carpet/shoe being contaminated with said toxic phlegm that we have to keep looking at is not lost on me either. Its definitely a cultural thing. And something you must just get over. Alot of my family find Europe or America unsettling because its so quiet and the people are so polite. Its not that Chinese aren't polite. We just have a different set of ways of expressing so. Cue the loud noisiness and pushiness. There is courtesy, but its expressed differently. My advice is just to master the language, be assertive and smile all the time, the Chinese will appreciate you more that way. So get amongst it, tough out the dirtiness (you'll be tougher and grow more chest hairs), laugh at the rudeness, speak the language and get to know your fellow neighbours. After all, thats why you are in China right?

    • Frank
      October 13, 2011
    • Nice response, Tingkerbell. I agree with you in general, but your comment "Alot of my family find Europe or America unsettling because its so quiet and the people are so polite." sounds funny. I mean, don't you think that most people, including the average Chinese person (at least middle class and up) would want to aim for politeness among his/her fellow citizens? It sounds strange that anyone would not want it to be that way - in general the more educated Chinese residents are actually no less polite than anywhere else in the world.

      In terms of staring, we are all human and there are only very subtle differences between us. Some of us just want to be able to blend into the crowd; we're not that special, unless we're Brad Pitt or some NBA star. Indeed, if a foreigner has to catch a bus rather than drive a car in China, they are probably even less worthy of attention; many locals are richer than they are. Unless of course curious locals on the bus wonder why the foreigner can't even afford a car! Well, there are many ways of looking at it.

      I agree at your final comments: certainly learning the language helps immensely, getting to know your neighbours shows you are civil, and tough out the rest. Good post.

    • iraglassismyhero
      October 14, 2011
    • @invisible: no, tingkerbell's right about the politeness thing. my (east asian, chinese citizen) husband was really, really uncomfortable staying in my mom's house in the US and having to say, 'please' and 'thank you' all the time, clean up after himself all the time, and make the hostess comfortable. he said, 'it's just not like a real family'.

      in the east asian way of thinking, you don't need to be polite to people close to you. you just do what you want and everyone generally accepts it. and hosts/hostesses do everything they can to make the guest comfortable (not that westerners, don't, hear me out), even to the point of giving up their own bedrooms, changing their entire schedules, etc. (case in point, i came home from a weekend away to find my husband's cousin, wife and 2-yo (the latter two i'd never met) living in my living room, sleeping on the floor because our flat's tiny, leaving random things around the house in what, to me, was utter disarray, especially the kitchen and loo, and they'd also rearranged the living room furniture! they stayed for a month and if i'd asked them a simple question like, 'how long are you staying?' it would've caused WWIII. i just had to suck it up. ah, the price of love! )

      then when my husband watched people in the states greeting each other with big (american) hugs and squeals of excitement and endless useless small talk (how ARE you?! i haven't seen you in SO LONG!! etc.), he said it was, 'really fake' and shook his head.

      as for politeness to strangers, i think in the east asian way of thinking, it seems odd to make so much effort for someone who's essentially unimportant to you, and is only really necessary when you want to increase your 'guanxi' and get some personal benefit. think about it, the time that i usually see people in chengdu being extra polite is when they're doing business. ordinary communication between strangers (on the bus, on the street, in a supermarket) is simply functional without a lot of pleases and thank yous.

      @tingkerbell: great post! there is definitely too much whingeing on the part of laowais in china (myself included) and we often need a reality check. no matter the trials and tribulations i endure here, it never gets boring and that's an essential part of what keeps me here.

    • iraglassismyhero
      October 14, 2011
    • oops, @frank, not invisible. lost track of who was posting what! :P

    • tori
      July 29, 2012
    • Not one of Sedaris' best efforts.

      I just spent a month in China, much of it in Chengdu, and I saw no spitting or any of that and most of the bathrooms were clean. Most of the meals I had in Chengdu were fantastic. I spent time in China in the 1980s and I do remember the conditions back then and the spitting and all that and it's completely different now.

      As for people staring and saying hello, try being a young woman in NYC and many other parts of the US—it's nonstop harrassment, and it's threatening. You're just a piece of meat, the kind that might freak out Sedaris. In China it was such a relief to not be harassed!

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